It sounds like this guy believes in real science and using caution when it comes to these shots. How refreshing to hear someone who is truly looking out for the patients.
Another great piece of journalism by Doc MaDem. Especially impressed by the handling of the term "anti-vax". Delivered with nuance and understanding of the issues. Something that is sadly missing in modern day journalism! Keep up the great work Doc MaDem 👍 👏
An expert like Retsef looks like he will ask the right questions
The FDA should take the lead globally in defining which vaccines are genuinely necessary, at what ages, and how often. It seems reasonable to establish that no vaccine should be approved for use at intervals shorter than one year, to prevent over-vaccination.
This would require a thorough reassessment of whether vaccines for illnesses like the common cold, flu, COVID-19, and HIV are even viable. A better use of public funds may lie in treatments and rapid-response prevention strategies tailored to these fast-evolving viruses.
The idea of repeated short-term vaccination was arguably the FAKE MANTRA of the pandemic.
Interesting, this morning in one of the newspapers I get called The Hamilton Spectator there was a broad headline screaming out “U.S. anti-vaxxers move worries scientists”. RFK Jr’s firing of immunization committee could undermine vaccine acceptance in Canada. In the article it reports from, Angela Rasmussen and Maxwell Smith both having grave concerns. There are no rebuttals, no questions just a blanket statement of their “opinions”. It also points out how other countries depend on the ACIP for direction, meaning they don’t verify the results themselves. Why are none of the papers, media reporting on what is actually being said? Not anti vaxxers just people who want to ensure safety. My blood is boiling now. Thank you Maryanne for interviewing this doctor who has his head screwed on straight.
So I think this may turn out to be the day the tide turned on the COVID mmRNA vax debate. I must say it has been a long wait.
But now it's going to be difficult for people to keep all this under wraps. Such interviews are likely to trickle out into the mainstream. So far, little reporting in the UK about this revolution at the CDC. It might be best if someone tries to take this new policy to litigation, so the whole issue can at last be properly debated in public. The truth matters, and the truth can be a big help to the vaccine injured.
But I worry about the repercussions for the future of traditional medicine, and public trust in authority and our media, if Prof Levi's view becomes the accepted narrative.
I take my hat off to you Maryanne - great persistence and fearless reporting over the years!
Many thanks Maryanne. So refreshing to hear from a straight talker with balance and clear understanding of the intellectual issues at stake. May perspicacity potently prevail.
The Australian ABC article this morning by Lewis Wiseman was utterly pathetic and shamefull in both its gaslighting and what it didn't say about the appointees.
Will Kennedy review of US FDA vaccine committee being independant of BIG PHARMA influence with new appointees like Retsef Levi, cause genuine change and also include support of regulator controlled trials and studies like UK MHRA did for VIRALEZE™ in UK NHS Hospital
WHY DIDN’T “WHO” CONTROL THE BIG PICTURE AND FALL FOR WARLORD BIG PHARMA PROFITEERING
It was a simple formula when COVID-19 began in 2020:
1. Find a vaccine
2. Find a treatment
The strategy: vaccinate the world and treat the sick — herd immunity would follow.
But it was flawed. COVID-19 wasn’t like polio, measles, smallpox, or shingles — where one shot gives long-term protection or leads to elimination.
COVID is a respiratory virus like flu, RSV, or the common cold. No vaccine has ever lasted even a year for these. Over an 80-year lifespan, that means 100+ muscle jabs.
In 2020, VIRALEZE™ emerged — a preventive nasal spray that kills COVID and other viruses on contact. Like sunscreen or toothpaste, regular use could protect entire communities.
But in 2021, rushed mRNA vaccines needed global rollout and guaranteed markets. Big Pharma used its full influence: lobbying, donations, committee positions, media control. This battle couldn’t be lost.
Manufacturing scale gave Big Pharma a monopoly — any threat to profit (like cheap, broad preventives) had to be stopped.
So prevention messaging was restricted to the visible: handwashing, masks, surface wipes — while denying airborne spread and censoring nasal sprays.
A market was secured: repeat jabs every year, forever.
By 2021, info control (via TNI and government “truth” campaigns) ensured that simple, safe alternatives like VIRALEZE™ were buried.
There are thousands of pages to this story. Perhaps one day a corruption commission will expose it.
Regulators must serve public health, not corporate profit. Science must be independent — not outsourced to pharma-funded trials
I think Makary said he would look into the FDA’s vaccine advisory panel… at his confirmation hearing he was asked about the conflicts of the VRBPAC, and he said “We need to review the ethics policy because people see things that appear to be a cozy relationship between industry and the regulators that are supposed to be regulating the products….Now, I want American companies to thrive. I want life sciences companies to thrive. But we need to call balls and strikes and then keep that independent scientific review process free of any conflicts."
It sounds like this guy believes in real science and using caution when it comes to these shots. How refreshing to hear someone who is truly looking out for the patients.
Half way through the interview I had to catch myself - I thought, damn, do you hear what he is saying…? This guy is now on ACIP! Wow.
Another great piece of journalism by Doc MaDem. Especially impressed by the handling of the term "anti-vax". Delivered with nuance and understanding of the issues. Something that is sadly missing in modern day journalism! Keep up the great work Doc MaDem 👍 👏
Thanks JB 🙌
WoW and Amazing
Thank You for this stunning interview Dr Demasi
.. and to you, Professor Levi
To now read such words coming essentially from within the CDC ..
.. after these many Covid Anni Horribiles (horrible years)
well .. in truth .. part of me is still getting use to believing this is true
I know right?!… it was incredible to listen to him…. 👏
An expert like Retsef looks like he will ask the right questions
The FDA should take the lead globally in defining which vaccines are genuinely necessary, at what ages, and how often. It seems reasonable to establish that no vaccine should be approved for use at intervals shorter than one year, to prevent over-vaccination.
This would require a thorough reassessment of whether vaccines for illnesses like the common cold, flu, COVID-19, and HIV are even viable. A better use of public funds may lie in treatments and rapid-response prevention strategies tailored to these fast-evolving viruses.
The idea of repeated short-term vaccination was arguably the FAKE MANTRA of the pandemic.
It’s time to reset the conversation
Absolutely
Interesting, this morning in one of the newspapers I get called The Hamilton Spectator there was a broad headline screaming out “U.S. anti-vaxxers move worries scientists”. RFK Jr’s firing of immunization committee could undermine vaccine acceptance in Canada. In the article it reports from, Angela Rasmussen and Maxwell Smith both having grave concerns. There are no rebuttals, no questions just a blanket statement of their “opinions”. It also points out how other countries depend on the ACIP for direction, meaning they don’t verify the results themselves. Why are none of the papers, media reporting on what is actually being said? Not anti vaxxers just people who want to ensure safety. My blood is boiling now. Thank you Maryanne for interviewing this doctor who has his head screwed on straight.
Thanks Vivien, the interview was actually fun too ☺️
I have read the X posts of Dr. Angela Rasmussen and Dr. Retsef Levi and their critics. I’ll take the work of Dr. Levi any-day over Dr. Rasmussen.
Trusted reporting on important issues is all we need - thanks again Maryanne
Thank you 🙏
The Hep B vaccine given to babies always puzzled me.
"Follow the science" always leads to "Follow the $ because there is no %$#@! science"
So I think this may turn out to be the day the tide turned on the COVID mmRNA vax debate. I must say it has been a long wait.
But now it's going to be difficult for people to keep all this under wraps. Such interviews are likely to trickle out into the mainstream. So far, little reporting in the UK about this revolution at the CDC. It might be best if someone tries to take this new policy to litigation, so the whole issue can at last be properly debated in public. The truth matters, and the truth can be a big help to the vaccine injured.
But I worry about the repercussions for the future of traditional medicine, and public trust in authority and our media, if Prof Levi's view becomes the accepted narrative.
I take my hat off to you Maryanne - great persistence and fearless reporting over the years!
Thank you Keith. 🙏
Lots of us already don’t trust the health system. That went with all the lies and obfuscation during and after covid.
The media is tainted too and the authorities.
There is so much talk about rebuilding trust in public health. What about the old chestnut that trust is a two-way street?
Public health has always been about treating people like a herd.
Well done and what a great man to interview. I almost didn’t believe my eyes as I was reading. Just marvellous.
Thanks Jillian.
Many thanks Maryanne. So refreshing to hear from a straight talker with balance and clear understanding of the intellectual issues at stake. May perspicacity potently prevail.
Thanks Ross, I agree. Levi is incredibly reasonable and informed.
One of the good guys.
The Australian ABC article this morning by Lewis Wiseman was utterly pathetic and shamefull in both its gaslighting and what it didn't say about the appointees.
Will Kennedy review of US FDA vaccine committee being independant of BIG PHARMA influence with new appointees like Retsef Levi, cause genuine change and also include support of regulator controlled trials and studies like UK MHRA did for VIRALEZE™ in UK NHS Hospital
WHY DIDN’T “WHO” CONTROL THE BIG PICTURE AND FALL FOR WARLORD BIG PHARMA PROFITEERING
It was a simple formula when COVID-19 began in 2020:
1. Find a vaccine
2. Find a treatment
The strategy: vaccinate the world and treat the sick — herd immunity would follow.
But it was flawed. COVID-19 wasn’t like polio, measles, smallpox, or shingles — where one shot gives long-term protection or leads to elimination.
COVID is a respiratory virus like flu, RSV, or the common cold. No vaccine has ever lasted even a year for these. Over an 80-year lifespan, that means 100+ muscle jabs.
In 2020, VIRALEZE™ emerged — a preventive nasal spray that kills COVID and other viruses on contact. Like sunscreen or toothpaste, regular use could protect entire communities.
But in 2021, rushed mRNA vaccines needed global rollout and guaranteed markets. Big Pharma used its full influence: lobbying, donations, committee positions, media control. This battle couldn’t be lost.
Manufacturing scale gave Big Pharma a monopoly — any threat to profit (like cheap, broad preventives) had to be stopped.
So prevention messaging was restricted to the visible: handwashing, masks, surface wipes — while denying airborne spread and censoring nasal sprays.
A market was secured: repeat jabs every year, forever.
By 2021, info control (via TNI and government “truth” campaigns) ensured that simple, safe alternatives like VIRALEZE™ were buried.
There are thousands of pages to this story. Perhaps one day a corruption commission will expose it.
Regulators must serve public health, not corporate profit. Science must be independent — not outsourced to pharma-funded trials
I think Makary said he would look into the FDA’s vaccine advisory panel… at his confirmation hearing he was asked about the conflicts of the VRBPAC, and he said “We need to review the ethics policy because people see things that appear to be a cozy relationship between industry and the regulators that are supposed to be regulating the products….Now, I want American companies to thrive. I want life sciences companies to thrive. But we need to call balls and strikes and then keep that independent scientific review process free of any conflicts."
Great interview.
Really looking forward to seeing where it all goes from here.
🙏great article