As the country endures a mental health crisis, economic hardship and the erosion of trust in public health, the Australian Health Minister says there is nothing to be sorry about.
This is actually fear-inducing, imo: these bloody bureaucrats actually think they did a good job ??!!
Days and years go by, governments change, we continue to be told we're the lucky country ... and the two main political parties become less discernable from each other.
Butler's lack of contrition says everything. Prof Foster is right....there needs to be a clean out of the current guard and the old guard held accountable....otherwise they will rinse-and-repeat all their mistakes.
Cleaning out the old guard sounds beneficial. But it seems that the new guard will also be open to bribes from pharma. Our health systems are so corrupt (even my doctor agreed) and the corruption is layers deep. I don’t have the answers but I think a good start maybe to outlaw graft from pharma with every loop hole imaginable covered by law.
More than a whitewash - it's a doubling down, and a reiteration that 'we' i.e. those in power, can and will rewrite history and any narrative to suit our own ends. Those ends (as history always attests) are power and control. Suggesting the need for a Centre for Disease Control and intending it to become the “authoritative” source is all the proof we need.
A Royal Commission? That's laughable these days as that too has been gamed and controlled. Banking anyone? Perhaps aged care? Robodebt? Or maybe Defence and Veteran Suicide?
None of these findings and recommendations have ever been implemented to the full, and those recommendations that have been implemented have been watered down, rolled over or somehow, overtime just been forgotten or ignored in real terms - thank industry lobbyists getting in the ears of ministers in the corridors of power for that.
The trouble with these commissions is that the government is, first and foremost in total charge of setting the terms and then picking the examiners. Even if those they pick that are scrupulous (such as Judge Ken Hayne as the Banking commissioner) miraculously discover that their hands are tied and that there real powers and ability are, for all intent and purposes emasculated down the track.
No, while some people are publicly outed, shamed or embarrassed by the findings of an RC we need something more useful, far reaching and enforceable than the useless Royal Commission.
My take on the enquiry and the Covid years is that most people still don't care about what happened or actively still support it.
Even those to whom I point out have been injured by the transfection agents just shrug their shoulders, or deny it.
Governments will do as little as they can to undermine their own power structure, and if they can become even more authoritarian with the imprimatur of a "friendly" enquiry, with the populace distracted with bread and circuses, they will.
Gareth “most people” have no idea what is going on… For years they’ve been told a tissue of lies by ‘experts’, politicians, bureaucrats, and the medical and scientific establishment. They’ve had no protection from the legal system, with personal autonomy and bodily integrity trashed by coercion and vaccine mandates.
They’ve been betrayed by the mainstream media/propaganda machine.
It’s a dire situation.
There is much to be done to find a way to inform the court of public opinion.
I had my son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren over for dinner yesterday. It took courage on my part to raise the question about childhood vaccines. My son was getting short with me saying I’m biased because I was injured by the covid shot. I read the Canadian childhood schedule yesterday. Hep B shot age 7 and HPV shot at age 9. If I hadn’t been injured I wouldn’t have started looking at vaccines. It is so complicated and difficult as parents to decide on what’s best for their children especially with it being pushed as a protection for children which responsible parents would embrace. Plus,I’m no scientist what if they listened and something happened? They listened to me about not having their children vaccinated with the covid shot.
Through all of this I’m getting sick of being viewed as someone going down a conspiratorial rabbit hole, which of course has been successfully indoctrinated into people’s psyches by government and pharma. I once was on that side too. Now that I’ve learned that children’s vaccines are inadequately trialled and tested, and that pharma carries no liability it comes across as corruption protecting the bottom line. It’s sickening, we’re talking about children. It would be interesting to know how many pharma executives get their children inoculated. Vaccinations maybe very good things but that’s not the problem. The problem is hidden stats, poor trialling and no oversight. Pharma polices themselves.
The report needs to be declared null and void, and anyone who supports it should be declared a traitor to the country. Any public official defending this report should be ousted, and if a majority support it, the government disbanded and new elections held. These lying miscreants shamelessly defend policies which harmed or killed thousands of Australians. This is a disgusting display of breach of government ethics which must be punished as severely as those were at Nuremberg. These bureaucrats are criminals -- murderers. They should be locked up, tried and suitably punished. This talk about "courage" is offensive in the highest degree and disrespectful to all those Australians harmed or killed by government policies. Don't stand for these liars and traitors. They MUST be held accountable!
Shout out your feelings! Gain support for truth and justice. A single match can light a fire, even though we can't predict which twigs will catch first, how rapidly the fire will spread, and how it will go, with enough heat, the kindling must burn.
Government came out pretty definitively a month (September) before the report publication that they would not hold a Royal Commission.
Covid response is the most clear pointer to needing a Royal Commission and compelling testimony by ministers, public servants and big and small pharma. The many redactions in the JANE HALTON report to Min Butler were attributed to Health Dept PS tagging commercial in confidence over a massive swag of info.
The restricted representation rules used by TGA to silence health professionals and media and the international and local compliance via TNI (Trusted News Initiative) is reminiscent of Orwell 1984 and more topically The Handmaid’s Tale.
If you read the 800 pages with the help of search for relevant words you will find Oral Antivirals (drugs) are mentioned with no criticism of Lagevrio (molnupiravir) which many know to be mutagenic and since 2023 not recommended by EMA, FDA and the WHO. I’ve seen today your early articles Maryanne October 2021
“… Merck seized the opportunity, early in the pandemic, to commence testing molnupiravir as a potential COVID-19 treatment. The company already had ivermectin in its stable of drugs, which also has antiviral properties and is approved by the FDA for treating worms.
But when Merck publicly discredited the use of ivermectin for COVID-19, despite some early trials demonstrating its effectiveness, many suggested it was a strategic move by the company to sideline ivermectin (which is cheap & off-patent), to make way for its new, highly profitable drug…”
But the report fails to mention antiviral nasal sprays which were developed by local biotech pharmaceutical Melbourne Company Starpharma as safe cheap “award winning” preventative and treatment for Covid and many respiratory viruses even HINI and Covid in many variants.
Submissions definitely included this important potential cost effective product and with statistical efficacy best in class preventative and treatments. The report did mention chef Peter Evans TGA infringement notice many for the humour !! but not a mention of the TGA infringement fines and order to block company websites to Australian IP addresses re VIRALEZE antiviral nasal spray which gained regulatory approval in 35 countries including Europe EMA MD from Nov 2020. But maybe someone from TGA whispered in the ear of the “independent” panel members
RESTICTED REPRESENTATION
Or
CENSORSHIP by any other name.
Yes we need that Royal Commission or this will be sent to NACC
The COVID-19 Response Inquiry report, which supports the pandemic industry going forward, is compromised via authors with conflicts of interest, e.g. Catherine Bennett was an avid promoter of the COVID-19 vaccine products.
In this article Catherine Bennett is asked the question: "ATAGI has recommended the fourth dose or a second booster dose for people aged 30 and over. How do you see this development?" Catherine Bennett responds: "For the first two months or so, a second booster reduces infection rates and may help reduce the number of infections or reinfections we have through winter. People in their 30s have some of the highest reported infection rates. Boosters can also help reduce symptoms and the risk of an infection developing into more severe disease as well. That gets more important as you get older, so that is why ATAGI may recommend the fourth dose for anyone 50 and over now."
Is Catherine Bennett actually qualified to speak on 'COVID-19' and 'COVID-19' vaccine products, and 'recommend' these medical interventions to mass populations?
It’s just dispiriting how beastly careless these people are about the consequences if their actions.
We were scared witless then became angry at his many lies they told. So many doctors just tried to pump us full of spike protein and wonder why most of don’t trust them anymore.
Just as good as a royal commission and perhaps even better, at least as far as getting at the he truth of the matter is what we have had in Canada. It’s called the People’s Inquiry and it rose spontaneously and was funded strictly by donations. It had hearings all over the country with testimony from a variety of different experts and its conclusions have been damning so at least the truth is out there for those who are willing to hear it.
Unfortunately there are many not only in government but also in the general public who don’t believe if you’ve had 5,6 or 7 jabs you don’t want to know that they may have harmed you.
People take jobs in government bureaucracies for the security knowing that they will never be held accountable and never be fired. It’s like a vast upscale sheltered workshop. Public sector unions and teachers unions despite their protestations to the contrary are in ward turning, they’re in it for themselves. Because they don’t have to deal with the sometimes rough and tumble of the private sector they never get hardened to the real world and so their only defence when they mess up is that of a child, pure denial. “I didn’t do it but if I did it was an accident. “ that sort of thing. The problem is that the next lot may very well be the same so the people must find some way of taking charge again. What has been done by the People’s Inquiry in Canada is a start. That being said we’ve got as bad or worse a government here as anywhere else.
"at least the truth is out there" ... Max, do you mean that the truth is splattered across headlines in the press or the visual media ? Or do you mean that the People's Hearings do make an end so that it's known to those involved ?
Margaret-Rose I’m not sure what you’re getting at. The many different truths about the many different harms done by the way most governments handled the pandemic is not splattered over legacy media because they were complicit but the truth is definitely spreading one way or another and I don’t think that the vast majority of people would put up with it again in which case it won’t be done again. I may be wrong about that but I hope I’m right or we are well and truly done for and not just in terms of our health.
In which case - and thank-you for the clarification ! - it looks like you Canucks are leading the way ! :) What I personally long for is the media, all of the irresponsible bastards, being given their due: can't help wondering how many issues that split us would be teeny molehills without their infuriating interference.
Btw I need to add a slight correction to my post. The organization that has done this work is called the National Citizens Inquiry, not the People’s Inquiry.
Sadly, all the bureaucrats, and politicians are aware of their incompetence and their power crazed ineffective actions during the Covid crisis. But they are also aware that if any investigation admits culpability, they maybe sued, and their cushioned, feather bedded employment, resulting in wonderful pensions, once they have retired, maybe put at risk.
Those who instigate the inquiries come from the very same morally fragile and incompetent mould, as those who were in power and took the decisions four years ago. Thus, no inquiry is ever going to find individuals who are, effectively from the same immoral "family" cesspool, culpable.
All these individuals will have been schooled by some very underhand and again, morally corrupt and self serving solicitors and barristers, who swim in the same swamp. So sadly, the truth becomes the constant that loses out, together with the care of our society in general and our children in particular.
It's a total moral disgrace!
But then again when one realises what "the authorities" can do by needlessly killing Peanut the Squirrel, one can totally understand how such amoral and authoritarian and totalitarian actions can proliferate, in what should be a tolerant society.
Mmm, I would be cautious if I was you, to presume that this material will be useful as toilet paper replacement JB. After all, one wants something that is soft and gentle on the skin, in that department. Whereas, I sense, if the content of this report is anything to go by, then the paper it has been written on will be more abrasive and coarse than when we had to use the "Izal" paper found in the school toilets!! But if what you're really saying is that reports like these only deserve to be flushed down the toilet, then I can readily concur with that sentiment!! 😂
This is actually fear-inducing, imo: these bloody bureaucrats actually think they did a good job ??!!
Days and years go by, governments change, we continue to be told we're the lucky country ... and the two main political parties become less discernable from each other.
Butler's lack of contrition says everything. Prof Foster is right....there needs to be a clean out of the current guard and the old guard held accountable....otherwise they will rinse-and-repeat all their mistakes.
Absolutely!
“…there needs to be a clean out of the current guard and the old guard held accountable....otherwise they will rinse-and-repeat all their mistakes.”
I wish I knew where it is that these (_¤_)s get the idea they're our bosses, rather than our paid servants ...
Cleaning out the old guard sounds beneficial. But it seems that the new guard will also be open to bribes from pharma. Our health systems are so corrupt (even my doctor agreed) and the corruption is layers deep. I don’t have the answers but I think a good start maybe to outlaw graft from pharma with every loop hole imaginable covered by law.
More than a whitewash - it's a doubling down, and a reiteration that 'we' i.e. those in power, can and will rewrite history and any narrative to suit our own ends. Those ends (as history always attests) are power and control. Suggesting the need for a Centre for Disease Control and intending it to become the “authoritative” source is all the proof we need.
A Royal Commission? That's laughable these days as that too has been gamed and controlled. Banking anyone? Perhaps aged care? Robodebt? Or maybe Defence and Veteran Suicide?
None of these findings and recommendations have ever been implemented to the full, and those recommendations that have been implemented have been watered down, rolled over or somehow, overtime just been forgotten or ignored in real terms - thank industry lobbyists getting in the ears of ministers in the corridors of power for that.
The trouble with these commissions is that the government is, first and foremost in total charge of setting the terms and then picking the examiners. Even if those they pick that are scrupulous (such as Judge Ken Hayne as the Banking commissioner) miraculously discover that their hands are tied and that there real powers and ability are, for all intent and purposes emasculated down the track.
No, while some people are publicly outed, shamed or embarrassed by the findings of an RC we need something more useful, far reaching and enforceable than the useless Royal Commission.
This was a big serve of “punish them more” with a little bit of “we made some mistakes” on the side to help it go down.
My take on the enquiry and the Covid years is that most people still don't care about what happened or actively still support it.
Even those to whom I point out have been injured by the transfection agents just shrug their shoulders, or deny it.
Governments will do as little as they can to undermine their own power structure, and if they can become even more authoritarian with the imprimatur of a "friendly" enquiry, with the populace distracted with bread and circuses, they will.
Gareth “most people” have no idea what is going on… For years they’ve been told a tissue of lies by ‘experts’, politicians, bureaucrats, and the medical and scientific establishment. They’ve had no protection from the legal system, with personal autonomy and bodily integrity trashed by coercion and vaccine mandates.
They’ve been betrayed by the mainstream media/propaganda machine.
It’s a dire situation.
There is much to be done to find a way to inform the court of public opinion.
I had my son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren over for dinner yesterday. It took courage on my part to raise the question about childhood vaccines. My son was getting short with me saying I’m biased because I was injured by the covid shot. I read the Canadian childhood schedule yesterday. Hep B shot age 7 and HPV shot at age 9. If I hadn’t been injured I wouldn’t have started looking at vaccines. It is so complicated and difficult as parents to decide on what’s best for their children especially with it being pushed as a protection for children which responsible parents would embrace. Plus,I’m no scientist what if they listened and something happened? They listened to me about not having their children vaccinated with the covid shot.
Through all of this I’m getting sick of being viewed as someone going down a conspiratorial rabbit hole, which of course has been successfully indoctrinated into people’s psyches by government and pharma. I once was on that side too. Now that I’ve learned that children’s vaccines are inadequately trialled and tested, and that pharma carries no liability it comes across as corruption protecting the bottom line. It’s sickening, we’re talking about children. It would be interesting to know how many pharma executives get their children inoculated. Vaccinations maybe very good things but that’s not the problem. The problem is hidden stats, poor trialling and no oversight. Pharma polices themselves.
Sorry for going off topic. I’m just angry at all of the dishonesty and capture at OUR expense.
The situation really fits the "red pill/ blue pill" metaphor.
Once seen, it can't be unseen.
I don't know how that will happen. The Blob is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent.
Maybe after the apocalypse!
It won’t happen if we don’t make it happen…
Find a way…
The report needs to be declared null and void, and anyone who supports it should be declared a traitor to the country. Any public official defending this report should be ousted, and if a majority support it, the government disbanded and new elections held. These lying miscreants shamelessly defend policies which harmed or killed thousands of Australians. This is a disgusting display of breach of government ethics which must be punished as severely as those were at Nuremberg. These bureaucrats are criminals -- murderers. They should be locked up, tried and suitably punished. This talk about "courage" is offensive in the highest degree and disrespectful to all those Australians harmed or killed by government policies. Don't stand for these liars and traitors. They MUST be held accountable!
Yeah, I like your passion.
But what good is passion when we all feel it in our powerlessness to DO anything ???!
Shout out your feelings! Gain support for truth and justice. A single match can light a fire, even though we can't predict which twigs will catch first, how rapidly the fire will spread, and how it will go, with enough heat, the kindling must burn.
Hear, hear 🙌
Fingers crossed, Mark.
Government came out pretty definitively a month (September) before the report publication that they would not hold a Royal Commission.
Covid response is the most clear pointer to needing a Royal Commission and compelling testimony by ministers, public servants and big and small pharma. The many redactions in the JANE HALTON report to Min Butler were attributed to Health Dept PS tagging commercial in confidence over a massive swag of info.
The restricted representation rules used by TGA to silence health professionals and media and the international and local compliance via TNI (Trusted News Initiative) is reminiscent of Orwell 1984 and more topically The Handmaid’s Tale.
If you read the 800 pages with the help of search for relevant words you will find Oral Antivirals (drugs) are mentioned with no criticism of Lagevrio (molnupiravir) which many know to be mutagenic and since 2023 not recommended by EMA, FDA and the WHO. I’ve seen today your early articles Maryanne October 2021
“… Merck seized the opportunity, early in the pandemic, to commence testing molnupiravir as a potential COVID-19 treatment. The company already had ivermectin in its stable of drugs, which also has antiviral properties and is approved by the FDA for treating worms.
But when Merck publicly discredited the use of ivermectin for COVID-19, despite some early trials demonstrating its effectiveness, many suggested it was a strategic move by the company to sideline ivermectin (which is cheap & off-patent), to make way for its new, highly profitable drug…”
But the report fails to mention antiviral nasal sprays which were developed by local biotech pharmaceutical Melbourne Company Starpharma as safe cheap “award winning” preventative and treatment for Covid and many respiratory viruses even HINI and Covid in many variants.
Submissions definitely included this important potential cost effective product and with statistical efficacy best in class preventative and treatments. The report did mention chef Peter Evans TGA infringement notice many for the humour !! but not a mention of the TGA infringement fines and order to block company websites to Australian IP addresses re VIRALEZE antiviral nasal spray which gained regulatory approval in 35 countries including Europe EMA MD from Nov 2020. But maybe someone from TGA whispered in the ear of the “independent” panel members
RESTICTED REPRESENTATION
Or
CENSORSHIP by any other name.
Yes we need that Royal Commission or this will be sent to NACC
The COVID-19 Response Inquiry report, which supports the pandemic industry going forward, is compromised via authors with conflicts of interest, e.g. Catherine Bennett was an avid promoter of the COVID-19 vaccine products.
See this SBS article: COVID-19 boosters are ‘definitely worth it', says leading epidemiologist, updated 2 August 2022: https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/en/podcast-episode/covid-19-boosters-are-definitely-worth-it-says-leading-epidemiologist/2yjujs8iz
In this article Catherine Bennett is asked the question: "ATAGI has recommended the fourth dose or a second booster dose for people aged 30 and over. How do you see this development?" Catherine Bennett responds: "For the first two months or so, a second booster reduces infection rates and may help reduce the number of infections or reinfections we have through winter. People in their 30s have some of the highest reported infection rates. Boosters can also help reduce symptoms and the risk of an infection developing into more severe disease as well. That gets more important as you get older, so that is why ATAGI may recommend the fourth dose for anyone 50 and over now."
Is Catherine Bennett actually qualified to speak on 'COVID-19' and 'COVID-19' vaccine products, and 'recommend' these medical interventions to mass populations?
It’s just dispiriting how beastly careless these people are about the consequences if their actions.
We were scared witless then became angry at his many lies they told. So many doctors just tried to pump us full of spike protein and wonder why most of don’t trust them anymore.
We all need to focus on getting rid of censorship and unitary approach - when they force lies the people do find out and we get angry
When the GP is forced by govt to say
We have nothing to Treat healthy under 70s
It is a big lie but they are scared to tell the truth and the TGA has been very controlling in not allowing publication of truth
Just as good as a royal commission and perhaps even better, at least as far as getting at the he truth of the matter is what we have had in Canada. It’s called the People’s Inquiry and it rose spontaneously and was funded strictly by donations. It had hearings all over the country with testimony from a variety of different experts and its conclusions have been damning so at least the truth is out there for those who are willing to hear it.
Unfortunately there are many not only in government but also in the general public who don’t believe if you’ve had 5,6 or 7 jabs you don’t want to know that they may have harmed you.
People take jobs in government bureaucracies for the security knowing that they will never be held accountable and never be fired. It’s like a vast upscale sheltered workshop. Public sector unions and teachers unions despite their protestations to the contrary are in ward turning, they’re in it for themselves. Because they don’t have to deal with the sometimes rough and tumble of the private sector they never get hardened to the real world and so their only defence when they mess up is that of a child, pure denial. “I didn’t do it but if I did it was an accident. “ that sort of thing. The problem is that the next lot may very well be the same so the people must find some way of taking charge again. What has been done by the People’s Inquiry in Canada is a start. That being said we’ve got as bad or worse a government here as anywhere else.
"at least the truth is out there" ... Max, do you mean that the truth is splattered across headlines in the press or the visual media ? Or do you mean that the People's Hearings do make an end so that it's known to those involved ?
Margaret-Rose I’m not sure what you’re getting at. The many different truths about the many different harms done by the way most governments handled the pandemic is not splattered over legacy media because they were complicit but the truth is definitely spreading one way or another and I don’t think that the vast majority of people would put up with it again in which case it won’t be done again. I may be wrong about that but I hope I’m right or we are well and truly done for and not just in terms of our health.
In which case - and thank-you for the clarification ! - it looks like you Canucks are leading the way ! :) What I personally long for is the media, all of the irresponsible bastards, being given their due: can't help wondering how many issues that split us would be teeny molehills without their infuriating interference.
Btw I need to add a slight correction to my post. The organization that has done this work is called the National Citizens Inquiry, not the People’s Inquiry.
Sadly, all the bureaucrats, and politicians are aware of their incompetence and their power crazed ineffective actions during the Covid crisis. But they are also aware that if any investigation admits culpability, they maybe sued, and their cushioned, feather bedded employment, resulting in wonderful pensions, once they have retired, maybe put at risk.
Those who instigate the inquiries come from the very same morally fragile and incompetent mould, as those who were in power and took the decisions four years ago. Thus, no inquiry is ever going to find individuals who are, effectively from the same immoral "family" cesspool, culpable.
All these individuals will have been schooled by some very underhand and again, morally corrupt and self serving solicitors and barristers, who swim in the same swamp. So sadly, the truth becomes the constant that loses out, together with the care of our society in general and our children in particular.
It's a total moral disgrace!
But then again when one realises what "the authorities" can do by needlessly killing Peanut the Squirrel, one can totally understand how such amoral and authoritarian and totalitarian actions can proliferate, in what should be a tolerant society.
I am in strong agreement with you.
As am I.
Wow... 868 pages !
Everybody should get a physical hard copy of this and keep it handy for the next p(l)andemic .....
....it will make perfect toilet paper replacement
Mmm, I would be cautious if I was you, to presume that this material will be useful as toilet paper replacement JB. After all, one wants something that is soft and gentle on the skin, in that department. Whereas, I sense, if the content of this report is anything to go by, then the paper it has been written on will be more abrasive and coarse than when we had to use the "Izal" paper found in the school toilets!! But if what you're really saying is that reports like these only deserve to be flushed down the toilet, then I can readily concur with that sentiment!! 😂
Lol! The hazard of paper cuts ☺️