Yes indeed about the Guillain-Barré Syndrome. My late dad hardly ever got sick. He was a mighty man that chopped down trees into his late 60s. One day, convinced by the local doctor, he gets the flu shot (he never got it before). Week later, gets the flu ! We laughed at the irony. Month later, his feet and hands go numb, he can't stand. Multiple tests and doctors guessing, mini stroke ? Infection? Finally a neurologist nails it ! The above named syndrome....and it got worse because it was the recurring type.
Has to have plasma infusions every month. Not that it did much good ! Whole situation reduced him from a vital healthy independent man who did the hard yakka to a infirm shell of a human. Hard to watch !
I brought up the flu shot theory with the original neurologist but he said "Not enough evidence". But it is enough evidence for me ! Flu Shot? NO THANKS ! 😤
Oh, no. This is heart-breaking JB. GBS is actually one of the most recognised harms that can occur after the flu shot. It really makes me rage when doctors dismiss patient concerns.
Agree with the post and your comments Nic. Here in the USA, I was told our flu shots were based on what Australia’s strain was. Starts there and spreads west. I think it’s time to let our natural immune system work. Leave the poisons out. Closer to 80 than 70! Retired since November, 2013. Believed what they said until the COVID jab rolled out. We just said “no!” One of us always got sick each winter. I told my husband we are done. So glad we made a wise decision. Common sense.
With all we know now, and more no doubt yet to come, no human should knowingly allow toxins/poisons into their body. No shots! No prescription brain altering drugs either.
Yes Marilyn, I had the flu shot twice. Coincidently (or not) one of those years, I got a really bad flu. I had never really studied the evidence - I trusted the government. Eek!
'The government' is spreading mis/disinformation about vaccines, which means the public is not properly informed...which means they cannot give authentic valid voluntary INFORMED consent to vaccination.
Along with the media and many others spreading mis/disinformation too.
But now you have such a breadth of experience of big pharma influence. How profitable is routine annual vaccines (a novel drug annually!) even if never having real variant evidence in the field of every changing respiratory viruses that enter via mouth and nose (maybe eyes or sexually) but we saw with Covid
Objective 1 - unrealistic evidence in systemic vaccines and make sure only limited support for barrier preventions. Allow washing hands, wiping handrails, sing happy birthday to time handwashing, hand sanitisers until dermatitis sets in and then the last hurrah accept masking that those alien asians had been using for decades and a big boost to air conditioning manufacturers CLEAN AIR that no one really knows if turned on.
But don’t support existing out of patent drugs and stop information on antiviral nasal sprays SaNOtize VIRALEZE™ with proven trials which could have been routine like sunscreen - a new version of slip slap slop TV ads. No Pfizer Paxlovid and Merck Lagevrio novel drugs are the answer at over $1000 per 5 day course. Australia sent $2.7billion to US companies and still Trump wants to kill our PBS
Thanks Maryanne, I am going to forward this to Prof Paul Kelly, head of the newly established Australian Centre for Disease Control.
Is there any merit in the "dirt is good" theory? The proposition that lots of 'natural infections' activate the immune system to protect from 'other' infections and even autoimmune diseases. eg internal parasites may prevent autoimmune diseases. Association but not proven cause and effect?
It's worth bearing in mind that the ABS data sets for influenza combine "influenza and pneumonia" into one data pool, and separate "pneumonia only" out but don't separate "influenza only" - presumably because all or most influenza deaths are from secondary pneumonia, just like COVID. You have to manually subtract the numbers to get influenza deaths, which are just a fraction of the "2000-3000 per year". Early treatment with antibiotics would probably save many of these deaths.
The deduced figures for 2015-2023 for influenza are:
2015 274
2016 439
2017 1207
2018 130
2019 1008
2020 43
2021 2
2022 288
2023 402
Which are much lower than portrayed. Note also that 2020 and 2021 had almost no influenza deaths (not due to the lack of lockdowns, which were intermittent and failed to reduce COVID numbers).
The deduced figures for all (Influenza, pneumonia and COVID) are:
Re "The deduced figures for 2015-2023 for influenza are...Which are much lower than portrayed."
So is the public being fed more alarming figures to make them vaccinate?
In which case this would be mis/disinformation, and would result in the public not being properly informed, and therefore unable to give their valid voluntary INFORMED consent to the intervention of vaccination.
Why are the government and organisations such as the RACGP so intent on making people submit to flu vaccination, which even the likes of Anthony Fauci admits is a rubbish intervention, i.e.
QUOTE
As of 2022, after more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted. As pointed out decades ago, and still true today, the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.
END OF QUOTE
Ref: David Morens, Jeffery Taubenberger and Anthony Fauci. Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses. Cell Host & Microbe 31, 11 January 2023.
Yes. It's a huge scam. Worse, the whole pandemic preparedness industry is predicated on the idea that influenza vaccines need to be supported in a "warm base manufacturing" scenario. In other words, they need to keep influenza going so they can keep the influenza vaccine industry going "just in case they are needed in a pandemic". Meanwhile the absence of influenza when they were busy with COVID in 2020 and 2021 is just "meh"
The most beneficial study that any scientist could undertake, would be to do an analysis of which, if ANY medication that has been licensed in the last 50 years, has done anything of benefit to the health of the public.
Personally, I think the outcomes of such a study would be very chilling!
I even remember at onetime the MSM saying you should get your flu shot as it will prevent absenteeism and boost productivity!! (hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to work we go 🐑)
I’ve never had a flu shot in my life and I can’t remember ever having had the flu except a couple times when I was a child. There must be something wrong with me! On the other hand my twin sister Max’s out on every shot under the sun and often gets sick. She even had cancer about a year ago which I attribute to the Covid shots because I’m not aware of anyone else getting cancer in my family even in the past. Perhaps this is all a coincidence, maybe not.
just unsure of the veracity of those numbers - the like scare campaigns....For instance, the ABS figures for flu deaths is totally unreliable....as I mention, they're based on models and mix flu with pneumonia, which doesn't give clean numbers.
The public is fed a diet of lies about flu vaccines...
For example:
QUOTE
Authorities claim the vaccine is essential to prevent severe illness, reduce hospital admissions, and protect society’s most vulnerable.
END OF QUOTE
Here's Anthony Fauci, and co, vaccine pusher extraordinaire, owning up about flu vaccines, in an article published in January 2023:
QUOTE
As of 2022, after more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted. As pointed out decades ago, and still true today, the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.
END OF QUOTE
If you're informed of that statement from Fauci, what are you going to do? Are you going to accept the vaccine? And what about if you're mandated to submit to it for your job?
Ref: David Morens, Jeffery Taubenberger and Anthony Fauci. Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses. Cell Host & Microbe 31, 11 January 2023.
Re: "States like Victoria and New South Wales make it compulsory for healthcare workers to take the flu shot, part of a broader strategy to reduce transmission."
There's the fundamental problem...
It's impossible to obtain valid voluntary informed consent for a medical intervention that's compulsory, and this includes vaccination.
This has been a major problem all along, compulsory vaccination for healthcare workers or anyone.
As long as there are vaccination mandates for anyone - healthcare workers, children, military etc, everyone is under threat of a vaccination mandate, as we saw throughout 'Covid'.
It's there in plain sight in The Australian Immunisation Handbook, the criteria for consent to be legally valid:
QUOTE
...It must be given voluntarily in the absence of undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.
...It can only be given after the potential risks and benefits of the relevant vaccine, the risks of not having it, and any alternative options have been explained to the person.
END OF QUOTE
It's also confirmed in letters received from the Australian Government in recent years:
QUOTE
Informed consent should be obtained for every COVID-19 vaccination, as per usual consent procedures for other vaccinations.
Yes indeed about the Guillain-Barré Syndrome. My late dad hardly ever got sick. He was a mighty man that chopped down trees into his late 60s. One day, convinced by the local doctor, he gets the flu shot (he never got it before). Week later, gets the flu ! We laughed at the irony. Month later, his feet and hands go numb, he can't stand. Multiple tests and doctors guessing, mini stroke ? Infection? Finally a neurologist nails it ! The above named syndrome....and it got worse because it was the recurring type.
Has to have plasma infusions every month. Not that it did much good ! Whole situation reduced him from a vital healthy independent man who did the hard yakka to a infirm shell of a human. Hard to watch !
I brought up the flu shot theory with the original neurologist but he said "Not enough evidence". But it is enough evidence for me ! Flu Shot? NO THANKS ! 😤
Oh, no. This is heart-breaking JB. GBS is actually one of the most recognised harms that can occur after the flu shot. It really makes me rage when doctors dismiss patient concerns.
🙏
Agree with the post and your comments Nic. Here in the USA, I was told our flu shots were based on what Australia’s strain was. Starts there and spreads west. I think it’s time to let our natural immune system work. Leave the poisons out. Closer to 80 than 70! Retired since November, 2013. Believed what they said until the COVID jab rolled out. We just said “no!” One of us always got sick each winter. I told my husband we are done. So glad we made a wise decision. Common sense.
With all we know now, and more no doubt yet to come, no human should knowingly allow toxins/poisons into their body. No shots! No prescription brain altering drugs either.
My view about the value of influenza vaccines has been reinforced by this article Maryanne. Once again I won’t be lining up for one.
Yes Marilyn, I had the flu shot twice. Coincidently (or not) one of those years, I got a really bad flu. I had never really studied the evidence - I trusted the government. Eek!
'Eek' indeed Maryanne...
'The government' is spreading mis/disinformation about vaccines, which means the public is not properly informed...which means they cannot give authentic valid voluntary INFORMED consent to vaccination.
Along with the media and many others spreading mis/disinformation too.
This story has to break...
Sometimes it’s like banging your head against a brick wall 😞
They won't stop until they are stopped!
(For those who have not seen this good news yet.)
Here is how Leslie Manookian and her Idaho Medical Freedom Act appears to have stopped them in Idaho: https://lesliemanookian.com/?s=testimony+
https://lesliemanookian.com/category/freedom/
The law: https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2025/legislation/S1210E2.pdf
Thanks for the Cleveland Clinic preprint link; I might have missed that.
But we persevere...
For example, here's my email to the RACGP and AMA today: https://vaccinationispolitical.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/doctors-pressing-vaccine-products-upon-mass-populations-is-this-ethical.pdf
I've published it in a substack article, including reference to your article today: Doctors pressing vaccine products upon mass populations - is this ethical? https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/doctors-pressing-vaccine-products
But now you have such a breadth of experience of big pharma influence. How profitable is routine annual vaccines (a novel drug annually!) even if never having real variant evidence in the field of every changing respiratory viruses that enter via mouth and nose (maybe eyes or sexually) but we saw with Covid
Objective 1 - unrealistic evidence in systemic vaccines and make sure only limited support for barrier preventions. Allow washing hands, wiping handrails, sing happy birthday to time handwashing, hand sanitisers until dermatitis sets in and then the last hurrah accept masking that those alien asians had been using for decades and a big boost to air conditioning manufacturers CLEAN AIR that no one really knows if turned on.
But don’t support existing out of patent drugs and stop information on antiviral nasal sprays SaNOtize VIRALEZE™ with proven trials which could have been routine like sunscreen - a new version of slip slap slop TV ads. No Pfizer Paxlovid and Merck Lagevrio novel drugs are the answer at over $1000 per 5 day course. Australia sent $2.7billion to US companies and still Trump wants to kill our PBS
Thanks Maryanne, I am going to forward this to Prof Paul Kelly, head of the newly established Australian Centre for Disease Control.
Is there any merit in the "dirt is good" theory? The proposition that lots of 'natural infections' activate the immune system to protect from 'other' infections and even autoimmune diseases. eg internal parasites may prevent autoimmune diseases. Association but not proven cause and effect?
Don't think the CDC will be interested, no money in it.
Do you think that the Covid Hoax would have worked without lots of $$$$ being involved.
Ask ex-P.M. Morrison...
It's worth bearing in mind that the ABS data sets for influenza combine "influenza and pneumonia" into one data pool, and separate "pneumonia only" out but don't separate "influenza only" - presumably because all or most influenza deaths are from secondary pneumonia, just like COVID. You have to manually subtract the numbers to get influenza deaths, which are just a fraction of the "2000-3000 per year". Early treatment with antibiotics would probably save many of these deaths.
The deduced figures for 2015-2023 for influenza are:
2015 274
2016 439
2017 1207
2018 130
2019 1008
2020 43
2021 2
2022 288
2023 402
Which are much lower than portrayed. Note also that 2020 and 2021 had almost no influenza deaths (not due to the lack of lockdowns, which were intermittent and failed to reduce COVID numbers).
The deduced figures for all (Influenza, pneumonia and COVID) are:
2015 2817
2016 2855
2017 3832
2018 2744
2019 3563
2020 2831
2021 3201
2022 12472
2023 7106
Src: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release#data-downloads
Graphic: https://t.me/arkmedic/18775
Re "The deduced figures for 2015-2023 for influenza are...Which are much lower than portrayed."
So is the public being fed more alarming figures to make them vaccinate?
In which case this would be mis/disinformation, and would result in the public not being properly informed, and therefore unable to give their valid voluntary INFORMED consent to the intervention of vaccination.
Why are the government and organisations such as the RACGP so intent on making people submit to flu vaccination, which even the likes of Anthony Fauci admits is a rubbish intervention, i.e.
QUOTE
As of 2022, after more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted. As pointed out decades ago, and still true today, the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.
END OF QUOTE
Ref: David Morens, Jeffery Taubenberger and Anthony Fauci. Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses. Cell Host & Microbe 31, 11 January 2023.
Yes. It's a huge scam. Worse, the whole pandemic preparedness industry is predicated on the idea that influenza vaccines need to be supported in a "warm base manufacturing" scenario. In other words, they need to keep influenza going so they can keep the influenza vaccine industry going "just in case they are needed in a pandemic". Meanwhile the absence of influenza when they were busy with COVID in 2020 and 2021 is just "meh"
The most beneficial study that any scientist could undertake, would be to do an analysis of which, if ANY medication that has been licensed in the last 50 years, has done anything of benefit to the health of the public.
Personally, I think the outcomes of such a study would be very chilling!
A totally useless vaccine.
I did have a flu' shot once, so long ago I can't remember. At least 30 years ago...it made me really ill. That was last time.
What I have been doing last few decades is: first sign of 'sniffles' I make a beautiful chicken soup with lots veg.
The rest of the cure: vitamin C and lots hot tea with lemon juice & honey...Since Covid I learn to boost my immune system with D3 & zinc.
Congratulations. Another great review on a very relevant subject. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you 🙏
I even remember at onetime the MSM saying you should get your flu shot as it will prevent absenteeism and boost productivity!! (hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to work we go 🐑)
I keep saying no to the 'flu injection.
I’ve never had a flu shot in my life and I can’t remember ever having had the flu except a couple times when I was a child. There must be something wrong with me! On the other hand my twin sister Max’s out on every shot under the sun and often gets sick. She even had cancer about a year ago which I attribute to the Covid shots because I’m not aware of anyone else getting cancer in my family even in the past. Perhaps this is all a coincidence, maybe not.
See this article from the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners: RACGP calls for action as flu cases reach record high, 7 April 2025: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/racgp-calls-for-action-as-flu-cases-reach-record-h
What do you think about this article Maryanne?
just unsure of the veracity of those numbers - the like scare campaigns....For instance, the ABS figures for flu deaths is totally unreliable....as I mention, they're based on models and mix flu with pneumonia, which doesn't give clean numbers.
What do you think about the RACGP being in bed with the vaccine industry-funded Immunisation Coalition?
See: The vaccine industry sponsors vaccination education for doctors... https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-industry-sponsors-vaccination
The public is fed a diet of lies about flu vaccines...
For example:
QUOTE
Authorities claim the vaccine is essential to prevent severe illness, reduce hospital admissions, and protect society’s most vulnerable.
END OF QUOTE
Here's Anthony Fauci, and co, vaccine pusher extraordinaire, owning up about flu vaccines, in an article published in January 2023:
QUOTE
As of 2022, after more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted. As pointed out decades ago, and still true today, the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.
END OF QUOTE
If you're informed of that statement from Fauci, what are you going to do? Are you going to accept the vaccine? And what about if you're mandated to submit to it for your job?
Ref: David Morens, Jeffery Taubenberger and Anthony Fauci. Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses. Cell Host & Microbe 31, 11 January 2023.
Re: "States like Victoria and New South Wales make it compulsory for healthcare workers to take the flu shot, part of a broader strategy to reduce transmission."
There's the fundamental problem...
It's impossible to obtain valid voluntary informed consent for a medical intervention that's compulsory, and this includes vaccination.
This has been a major problem all along, compulsory vaccination for healthcare workers or anyone.
As long as there are vaccination mandates for anyone - healthcare workers, children, military etc, everyone is under threat of a vaccination mandate, as we saw throughout 'Covid'.
It's there in plain sight in The Australian Immunisation Handbook, the criteria for consent to be legally valid:
QUOTE
...It must be given voluntarily in the absence of undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.
...It can only be given after the potential risks and benefits of the relevant vaccine, the risks of not having it, and any alternative options have been explained to the person.
END OF QUOTE
It's also confirmed in letters received from the Australian Government in recent years:
QUOTE
Informed consent should be obtained for every COVID-19 vaccination, as per usual consent procedures for other vaccinations.
END OF QUOTE
From letters to:
- Emma McArthur, 21 December 2021: https://humanityattheprecipice.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/doh-reply-21-12-2021.pdf
- Elizabeth Hart, 17 November 2022: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/mc22-018819-signed-highlighted-1.pdf
I'll repeat the key sentence from the letters from the Australian Government...
"INFORMED CONSENT SHOULD BE OBTAINED FOR EVERY COVID-19 VACCINATION, AS PER USUAL CONSENT FOR OTHER VACCINATIONS."
What is difficult to understand about this sentence? It's relevant to ALL vaccinations!
This is being ignored time and time again.
And the scandal is getting deeper and deeper the long this goes on...
"It's impossible to obtain valid voluntary informed consent for a medical intervention that's compulsory."
Exactly, Elizabeth!
Exactly, Maryanne!
Seriously! There's NO VALID CONSENT for vaccination!
It's a rote process, there's no pretence even of obtaining consent.
This is a massive scandal, waiting to explode!